Volkswagens New 300 MPG Car Not Allowed In America

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(Jim Stone)  You won’t find the 300 MPG Volkswagen XL1 in an American showroom, in fact it has even been denied a tour of America because it is too efficient for the American public to be made widely aware of, and oil profits are too high in America with the status quo in place.

No tour has been allowed for this car because the myth that 50 mpg is virtually impossible to obtain from even a stripped down econobox is too profitable to let go of, and when it comes to corporate oil profits, ignorance is bliss.

Years ago I had calculated that it should be possible to get a small car to exceed 100 mpg by putting parallel direct to cylinder water injectors side by side with the fuel injectors, and using the exhaust manifold to preheat the water so it would enter the cylinders as dry steam, thus providing added expansion (which drives the engine) while allowing the combustion process to proceed without reducing it’s efficiency.

But I was obviously wrong with my calculations, because they were in fact over 2x conservative. The 100 mpg carburetor was indeed a reality, and the Volkswagen XL1 proves it with only straightforward nothing special technology we have had since the 1970’s.

Though the XL1 can be plugged in to deliver a 40 mile all electric drive, it does not need to be plugged in EVER to achieve 300 mpg. And it does not cheat in any way to achieve the rating, it weighs over 1,700 pounds, has normal tires, and delivers a very good driving experience with a governed top speed of 99 mph.

The XL1 could reach a top speed in excess of 110 mph absent governor and turns in a 0-60 time of 11.5 seconds which is by no means leisurly for a car designed for efficiency. The XL1 in no way cheats on performance to hit it’s rating. It is simply the car we should have always had, and have had taken from us in the name of oil profits.

Though the XL1 can hit 300 mpg under ideal driving conditions, it’s combined mileage is usually a little over 200 mpg, and if you do city driving only that will drop to a minimum of 180 mpg under the worst driving conditions. But I’d be happy with that no doubt.

What does that kind of fuel economy really mean?

If the XL1 was equipped with an 18 gallon fuel tank, and you did all highway driving, you could fill it up with an oil change and when the next change was due you could change the oil and keep driving without filling up for and additional 2,400 miles. But it comes with a much smaller fuel tank, because if it could go that long on a single tank chances are the fuel would foul before it got used. The tank is only 2.6 gallons to prevent fuel age related problems from happening. So fill ups are cheap.

Many of the publications which speak about the XL1 did so when it was a concept car predicted to get right around 250 MPG. But in 2014, after extensive testing of cars now produced, test drivers report economy above 300 mpg under the correct driving conditions, which would be close to sea level, a flat straight road with no stops, and reasonable speeds.

To get rid of miles/imperial/U.S. gallon confusion, in the metric system the XL1 is rated to deliver 100 kilometers per litre. Translated for the U.S., that means approximately 65 miles per quart.

I rememer how I laughed at the Smart Fortwo, because even a full size 4 door Chevy Impala significantly beat the “Smart’s” fuel economy, and with the Impala you would get a whole car. The Volkswagen XL1 is clearly the two seater the Smart should have been if it really was what the name implies, and the XL1 is in contrast, a car I’d be proud to be seen in.

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You will NOT see the Xl1 in America, even it’s far less efficient 85 mpg non hyrid full size station wagon counterpart – the Jetta TDI blue motion wagon (Img  Carscoops.com), which is made in America is banned from American roads. And I would like to ask why? What excuse is there for banning highly efficient cars from American roads?

One excuse is that “they don’t meet American crash test standards”, but the real truth is that the Fed simply refused to ever crash test them because of what they are, in Europe even the XL1 is considered to be a very safe car in crashes, and the Jetta station wagon is obviously even safer and you CAN buy the non TDI versions of the exact same car in America. The only thing different is the engine, WHAT GIVES?

The answer is obvious. Simply for the sake of raking in huge profits from $4 a gallon gas, getting guzzled at 10X the rate it should be, the corporations have via campaign contributions and other types of pay outs succeeded in getting the FED to legislate the best cars off the road for irrelevant trumped up reasons. The XL1 will not meet American emission standards NOT because it is not clean enough, it will not meet them simply because inefficient parts that are mandated by the EPA are not part of the XL1’s power train. 

We will never see truly clean running and efficient cars in America, because the FED has mandated that American cars be intentionally stifled by horribly fuel wasting parts that add to the cost of the vehicle and do absolutely NO GOOD, how much more efficient and clean can you get than 300 mpg? The exhaust from the Xl1 has to, by simple math and the laws of physics, run at the theoretical threshold of emissions perfection.

 All is not rosy for Europe however

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The Xl1 is SO MUCH the car that the oil companies do not want that there will only be 2,000 made. And no production line was set up for them, they are all hand made. And irrelevant “lightweight” parts are added to the frame, consisting of carbon fiber and other exotic materials to add to the mystique.

But the materials and production limits are a load of BUNK, the car STILL weighs over 1,700 pounds, if it weighed just 100 pounds more everything exotic could be removed, because “exotic materials” are not doing much anyway, they are just marketing.

Cost is not the issue either Even after being hand made with “exotic” materials in an intentionally limited edition, the Xl1 still only costs $60,000. There is a lot more of a market for this car than 2,000 units at that price, have no doubt, this car is being held back on purpose.

If it can be hand made for that little, automated assembly lines could do it for half. And if a 1,700 plus pound Xl1 can get 300 mpg, a 3,400 pound Chevy Truck should be able to deliver at least 150 MPG, the Xl1 lays the mileage scam bare, with every hybrid that gets 40 mpg and every truck off the line that gets 20, Americans are getting the shaft and they do not even realize it.

I was first infatuated and impressed with the 85mpg Vokswagen TDI Blue Motion wagon and wished I could get one in America (when I was still there), and then the 300 mpg Xl1 came along, what a rude awakening and slap in the face for the American car buyer.

  • THOMASDISHAW

    People get murdered for bringing that kind of technology to the mainstream….

    • Gary Thomas

      Thomas,

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      Unpatented & Open-Domain Baby!

    • Tezmond

      Volkswagon would have spent tens of millions if not hundreds of millions developing this car! To then what, not go to market with it? Give me a break! The whole article is misleading and typical of pro conspiracy wackjobs happy to spin stories to suit their agendas all the while screaming how mainstream media deliberately influence people with lies and propaganda. Should not have even bothered reading the “article” after seeing the top link to a shocking video FEMA don’t want us to see. I take it that’s about the imminent round up of people and their families after martial law is declared after another false flag school shooting designed to “tak urrr gunnzz” and heard you into FEMA death camps where they will forcible immunize you, implant you with a “a mark of the beast” chip and potentially cut your head off with a guillotine?

      • Vinsanity76

        Dude, I know the banners are pretty campy but the article appears to be based in fact. There are others if you look it up. If you read something different then offer it. You seriously make your judgements on info based on the ads?? Lol. Sure, it helps reinforce what a lot of conspiracy “tak urrr gunnzz” types have been saying. Doesn’t make it false. Just so happens it’s here and on Motortrend, Car and Driver, etc… Way to vent some underlying frustration bro. You’re missing the point of the article. Why is this not being released and marketed here? Try some facts next time, not just “urrr pinion”.

        • Tezmond

          Sorry bud but it is all about credibility and trying to validate one conspiracy with another does not earn credibility with me. Good for the paranoid and gullible but I don’t fall into either of those categories. Ok lets talk facts, firstly its a hybrid. The writer of this article is deliberately misleading the reader by very heavily implying that it is the combustion engine ALONE that provides its outstanding mileage which is completely wrong. Secondly its a concept car, it is being manufactured for a very limited release. My quess would be to iron out the bugs for later releases and why change to the left hand drive variant to sell a handful of cars in the USA?(people in Europe have their steering wheels on the right and drive on the let hand side of the road) This article seems to be lifted from here http://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-261-mpg-volkswagen-xl1-in-manhattan-becaus-1482688104 and the author has put a conspiracy twist on it to entertain you anti establishment folk. They bothered to reveal the car in the USA but there probably wasn’t enough interest to push it further because the fact of the matter is these cars will never do well in the USA because the USA own the majority of the oil in the world and your petrol prices are deliberately kept at a price that consumers are not demanding this type of mileage from their cars, especially ones that will retail for about $140k. This is very much a glimpse into the future especially after the USA no longer have the resources to keep invading oil rich countries to enable you to drive those big oversized SUV’s you guys love so much. So basically the story has no credibility and is the ONLY article claiming that it is not being released due to some conspiracy involving the car manufacturers and oil industry. By the way I am not oblivious to corporate influence over government and are a strong advocate against lobbiest’s and political “donations” being made to our leaders nor the fact that Iraq and Afghanistan were invaded for the interests in oil and the transportation of it, unfortunately atrocities that are still going on while you guys are so awake whining about conspiracy theories that have zero credibility.

          • Stavros Tsopanos

            You are wrong about Europe and steering wheels. There are only 2 countries that cars have their steering wheels on the right side, UK and Cyprus. The rest 45 countries use the same cars (left wheeled) and people drive the exact same way as you do in the USA.

          • fattyboombatty

            some people in Australia, India and Japan would like to have a word with you

          • Ricardo Silva

            Internet is a fabulous tool. I’ve just learnt “Australia, India and Japan” are European countries. Wow! My brain has just blown.

          • mofo

            Guest……you do realize none of those countries you just mentioned are in Europe right ? smdh

          • Stavros Tsopanos

            Those people does NOT leave in Europe …duh!

          • Salil Maniktahla

            India is right-side drive, Guest.

          • Terrance Bryant

            I think he was referring to Europe, as in Europe only has 2 counties with steering wheels on the right

          • Terrance Bryant

            I think he was referring to Europe, as in Europe only has 2 counties with steering wheels on the right

          • ProDigit

            Except they drive in km instead of miles

          • Stavros Tsopanos

            Well, that’s true but still that doesn’t change “the way” they drive!

          • Valentine von Horne

            do you all realise, that right hand drive, on the left, is the correct way, left hand drive, on the right, is only because of that squat dwarf idiot Napoleon, cos the bad tempered frog fool was left handed

          • Gavin Varitech

            Considering the first cars on the road were in America I don’t think Napoleon had anything to do with what the original or correct way to drive is.

          • Valentine von Horne

            yer yer, cos everything in this world is all about the u/s of foolish a, so why is it mercedes is credited with the 1st car, which i may had, had the steering wheel on the right? and the factoid about the jumped up,megalomaniac froggy, is true, he was left handed, so he thought every one else should be as well

          • Gavin Varitech

            The Benz (NOT Mercedes) you are referring to was more of a motorcycle than a car as it was nothing more than a tricycle with an engine attached to the rear wheels. No doors, no roof, no trunk/boot, etc. A tricycle with an engine attached to the rear axle. That’s it. I guess you can call that the first car, but the first actual car that people could actually buy and drive, and the reason most paved roads exist in the world today, if the Ford Model T.

            And guess what, douche’, the Benz was LEFT HAND DRIVE. At least the brake was on the left side. The steering wheel was in THE MIDDLE but the driver sat on the left hand side because that is where the brake lever was. Look it up before you make asinine comments in public. Stop making yourself look more and more foolish with every post.

            While Napoleon may have wanted the world to conform to him, he was dead for decades (almost 100 years) before anything that even resembled the modern internal combustion engine automobile even existed. So I’m not sure what he could have possibly had to do with it.

          • KansasDJ

            74 countries are left-driving, while 166 are right-driving.

          • Stavros Tsopanos

            My comment was about Europe. Tezmond gave a false info and I made a comment on that single fact. Is it really that hard for some people to read three sentences in a row?

          • Terra Long Ciurro

            The article does not imply that the car is hybrid. The fact that it IS a hybrid is mentioned or implied in several places.

          • Kurt Wullenweber

            Yo, Tez, when you wake up to find out all those tak urr gunnzz crazies were the only ones paying attention to reality, I hope you live long enough to figure out how insultingly smart you really are.

          • Tezmond

            Paranoid frantic delusions, look it up. The funny thing I find with you conspiracy dooms day nutters is most of you have nothing to say about the invasion of Iraq etc and most seem to support it, your concern is always very self involved yet don’t you think the best way to stop your own army coming to get YOPU would be to stand up and tell the politicians you will not tolerate them essentially doing the same thing to others?

          • Kurt Wullenweber

            You assume you know so much about those you know nothing. Don’t worry, we’ll defend your right to be a fool.

          • Tezmond

            No one is going to take your guns mate. The exact same corporations you guys love to hate have made sure you will always buy more to continue to line their pockets. You have fallen for the propaganda that an armed society is a safe society, and your kids will keep dying in schools without one Fuck given by any of them.

          • Kurt Wullenweber

            Tell that tp the people of Connecticut and Ney York, you fucking idiot.

          • Tezmond

            Your country is riddled with guns you think because 2 states are tough on it it will make a difference? You really do epitomise the stereotypical dumb American. How many note massacres do you need to see to realise it isn’t working?

          • Vinsanity76

            Sorry Bud, but your comment was you didn’t believe that Volkswagen had spent the money to make a car and then not market it. I only caught this article because it was posted, not because I love this site. Your original comment was just a knee-jerk reaction; congratulations on a more intelligent follow up. However, I still don’t see a true reason why this car will not be ordered in the US – just what you think the reason is. This is not the only article I have read and won’t be the last. But I find it funny that everything you wrote in your response framed the US oil machine as a money-driven, war hungry beast but you give no credit to the suppression of tech to support the price of oil? I’m not sure you have chosen a position. And don’t tell me because of FEMA camps you don’t give the idea any credibility. The article wasn’t about FEMA camps. It was about tech…and there are a lot of us who have watched tech be suppressed time and time again in America in favor of profit.

          • Tezmond

            My point is the article is misleading and deliberately makes misleading claims to validate the well known fact that the oil co have held back tech to maintain the reliance on oil. The problem is this is NOT one of those instances. What annoys me is the people who write this dribble think they are “waking” people up to the cause when in fact all it does is discredit the cause and keep the average Joes head in the sand as they don’t want to look like a conspiracy nutter. Hence my reference to the utterly ridiculous links above it about FEMA camps. I am surprised there isn’t something linking to chemtrails or Nibiru also. This car is a limited run prototype, it is not a practical car, it is not going to retail for only 60k and it most certainly IS touring the states so expect a watered down version to come out in the future. To sum up the article is full of shit but if you want to cling onto things and hen pick the parts that validate your ideals then welcome to the new religion of conspiracytheorist

          • Ryan Cekander

            Tesmund, how do you explain the 83 Honda CRX. Do you not think people since ’83 would not want to get 50mpg+?? And 30 years later… not a single available petrol-only car gets 50mpg, while the sold-out mainstream is raving hybrid toyota’s that barely scrape 40mpg? There’s definitely a bigger conspiracy here, and it’s from this money-hungry planet-murderers.

          • orangelion03

            Did you own a 1982 CRX? I replaced a 75 Civic CVCC with a CRX HF. The HF was optimistically rated by the EPA at 51 highway…I typically got low 40s on the hwy, and averaged in the mid 30s. Excellent mileage, but not what was claimed (EPA numbers are generally for comparison use only and particularly in those days, were determined from ideal condition testing).

          • Tezmond

            Honestly do you really need this pointed out to you? Have look at the freeking size and weight difference for a start. What would you like to be involved in an accident in between the old civic (in mint condition) and a new one? What sort of weight do you think those safety features add?, do you want it to be able to start first go in freezing conditions? what about not having to jump under the bonnet and re jet the carburettor to avoid flat spots when driving? Ahh guess we will need electronic fuel injection and a computer, more weight, sick of having to manually wind up those windows I mean who has the time to do that yeah? Guess we better put in some electric ones etc etc. At the end of the day I am not denying the oil companies have a very firm hold on how the rest of this fuel is to be used and the price we will all pay for it but that does not make this article credible or any of the complete bullshit it simply made up to try and gain some credibility.

    • chuckt12345

      dude this story isnt remotely true,, sad thing is some morons actually believe this paste/share crap all over FB

  • IQBoosterShot

    “It’s” means “it is” or “it has.”

    • samiam

      Greay a grammar nazi

      • Bastion

        While grammar Nazis on Facebook are pedantic, when it comes to writing articles, if one wishes to communicate effectively, one should adhere to certain standards.

  • Deeznutz

    What “It’s” are you referring to?

  • kezkez
    • Clint Hardman

      what about Canada?

  • claygooding

    I wonder what kind of milage it could get on biofuel made from hemp,,,a company in the US has finally gotten enough domestic production to verify the claims that hemp produces 4 times as much biofuel as corn,,that has to be worrying the oil companies.

    • Michael Capanelli

      I don’t think its the oil companies that are worried so much as the farming industry that gets subsidies for corn used in ethanol and other corn based bio-fules.

    • rose harris

      hell that’s great just run the exsauset in to the car so u can breath it and get high going down the road

      • Juan Rivera-Count Prince

        Ha Ha you got it!!!! XD

      • MPE

        Hemp is a LOT different than pot……..

      • Edgar Daniel Noice

        There are hemp plants, and there are cannabis plants, cannabis plants grow the classic “pot leaf”, but they also grow a flower, which is the part of the plant where the production of thc(what gets you high) is concentrated, this flower is the part we call weed. Now hemp plants, only grow the classic “pot leaf” and do not grow the flower, therefore producing no thc. Any attempt to get high off of a hemp plant would be futile and would only end up in a head-ache.

        • Alexandre French

          regardless, the high would still exist. Except that it would come from carbon monoxide poisoning, and probably kill you within 15 minutes. So yes, pot heads, please port your exhaust into your vehicles.

          • Edgar Daniel Noice

            So are you saying people who smoke weed should kill themselves?

          • Liquid

            I think he’s saying if they are stupid enough to breath carbon monoxide because they heard it runs off a hemp product, then yes.

          • Edgar Daniel Noice

            He said “pot heads please port your exauhst into your cars”
            By that im pretty sure he is flat out saying stoners should kill themselves.

    • Juan Rivera-Count Prince

      And where does hemp come from??? Now you get it???

      • Edgar Daniel Noice

        Hemp plants and cannabis plants are different. A hemp plant will not get you high

        • claygooding

          -Edgar..the “industrial” hemp plant is a strain of marijuana as id Afghan Kush or Northern Lights,,it was develped by farmers in France and Spain in the early 60’s to try and get the UN to allow it’s production following the hemp prohibition put in place because of marijuana,,and yes,,hemp plants grow flowers or there would be no seeds.

          • Edgar Daniel Noice

            They produce flowera that only produce seeds, no thc
            And we have had thc free hemp since colonial times at least

          • claygooding

            Wrong,,industrialized hemp was produced in the early 1960’s in response to the UN and the Single Treaty Convention,,it was developed by farmers and researchers in Spain,Portugal and France in an attempt to have hemp removed from the STC,,it didn’t work.
            That is in the history books and your reasoning that we had low thc in colonial days is so bogus,,trying to act as if Jefferson and Washington didn’t grow marijuana when they did. In colonial times they didn’t even know what “THC” was and they didn’t have rich industrialists buying hemp prohibition,,read Jack Herer’s book and learn something,,it’s free at Jack Herer.com.

  • Michael71

    This is great but it’s still a car for wage slaves to be kept as wage slaves. Put that engine into this vehicle and the world will change for the better:
    http://www.tosimplify.net/p/rig.html

    • dragon5126

      the milage is based on weight to horsepower ratios and at what speed the peak power is developed, allowing the transmission to do the work change any of it and the figures change

  • Shinri1

    You spelled Volkswagen wrong.

  • kim b

    The more we take, the more they keep piling on,wow 300 mpg!!

  • starsfaninvan

    I’m willing to question the accuracy of his numbers, as the owner of a 2014 Jetta TDI Sedan, which under ideal driving conditions at highway speeds gets 60mpg, combined is roughly 6.4 l/100km (Canadian, car computers won’t tell me the MPG). This makes me skeptical of any body getting to 85mpg on their 2.0L TDI engine. Another reason to be skeptical is that they discontinued the Jetta sportwagen, which was the last Jetta wagon available, after years and years of ignoring the vehicle for design changes, and towards the end of its run, technological upgrades as well. VW’s concern is to make money for THEM, not for the oil companies, and therefore if they felt that the market wold respond well, and that they had the facilities in place to mass produce this vehicle, they would This tech will eventually make it to market, but when it’s such a new idea, that can take time.

    • Duane Moore

      Look it up, VW made a small diesel pick-up in the 1970s that got 50+ mpg. With 40+ years of technology since, we should easily be at 300+ mpg if some group wasn’t holding things back!!

      • dragon5126

        look up the VW Quattro or was it quantum diesel that was getting over 50 MPG… this was mid to late 80’s production

      • Robert Henry

        Statements like this
        make my head hurt. It’s called “begging the question” and it’s a
        logical fallacy. Regardless of how many years of technology have come to pass
        since the 70s, there is still only a finite amount of energy you get back from
        detonating a fixed amount of gasoline vapor. “Moore’s Law” doesn’t
        apply to fuel efficiency because there is eventually only so much energy you
        can get out of a specific type of fuel. It’s very easy to ask the question
        “If we could do ‘x’ then why can’t we do ‘y'”, but as an engineer I
        don’t have the luxury of being able to rely on a statement like this. I’m the
        one who has to figure out “how” we do something. Can cars still
        become more fuel efficient than they are today? Sure, and one of the ways they
        can do that is by turning them into extremely lightweight, slow, $150,000
        2-seater go karts like the car in this article. Fuel efficiency is great, but
        it’s not the only factor car makers have to take into account when they design
        a car. Modern emissions requirements, the additional weight required by modern
        cars to meet current safety standards, as well as all the standard features in
        a vehicle that most people don’t even think about because all that thought and
        design happens behind the curtain are factors in any car design. I’m not saying
        that there isn’t room for improvement, but a statement like “we should
        totally be able to have a 300MPG car today because we had 50MPG cars back in
        the 70s” is a fundamentally flawed statement and isn’t based on any
        knowledge of how cars actually work.

        In addition to
        being an engineer, I’m also a consumer. I’m looking for a new car to replace
        the two cars I have now. Why would I even want to buy a car like the one in
        this article when I can get a luxury 4 door electric sedan (Telsa Model S) for
        literally $80,000 less (the base Model S is about 68k, whereas the car in this
        article is actually around 150k contrary to what the article says). Is that a
        conspiracy, or is that just common sense?

  • http://www.aaronsenvironmental.com MacAaron

    Those are the reasons you think this car isn’t touring America? Really? Wow. And I thought Rush Limbaugh was delusional.. Jalopnik drove it IN MANHATTAN. Car & Driver drove it too. Here. So did Motor Trend. Even Fox News covered this car when it CAME HERE TO AMERICA.

    • dragon5126

      headlight, running lights (parking and turn signals), wipers, and other DOT required hardware are cut way back to limit electrical demand and the associated parasitic alternator drag and horsepower loss. Heavy windshield glass, and safety glass side windows that add weight are not used and as such dont meet safety requirements. Tire design that limits road drag also doesnt meet DOT safety regs. All the little things that add MPG are not legal on US highways,

      • james ha

        all the “problems” you mention could very easily be upgraded to DOT standards and the car would still get exceptional MPG. the reality is that the U.S. “law-makers” are deeply in the pockets of oil/fuel companies.

        • dragon5126

          It isn’t so much that the law makers are into the pockets of the companies as the companies are heavily invested into by lawmakers. It isn’t the Lobbyists like the idiot Bruce Clark claims as it is the stock investments of our “fearless leaders” that is the problem. Just a handful of years back a law was put in place banning them from what amounted to ‘insider trading’ two years later they removed it without stating any reason with a near unanimous vote. they simply have too much inside info and become billionaires over it. And yes they could upgrade the to safety standards, it would lower mileage, but still be worthwhile, no debate on that. My point, however, is that there is more to the picture that people simply are not seeing, part of it are safety standards that do absolutely nothing to keep the passengers safe, but reduce mileage considerably.

      • David McElroy

        That lack of meeting DOT standards doesn’t necessarily mean “unsafe”, and such standards can tend to ossify design progress. As for me, I’d be happy with a good stout antique that was built before catalytic convertors, seat belts, and all the electronic stuff that is totally unnecessary to basic transportation. Marketing ever more products at a profit in a program of planned obsolescence enforced by law is the name of the game. Look at Tesla car sales being prohibited due to car dealer’s objections!

        • dragon5126

          well stated. Another point to look at is engine design, in the 60’s the average full sized city bus got around 10-15 mpg diesel, on a 350 ci engine, TWO CYLINDER… with constant stop and start. The boy scout troop I was involved with had one, We averaged 20-25 mpg highway with a few very minor modifications (thermostatic fuel heater and ram air) that are now standard equipment. The DOT standards are oppressive in the way they are instituted and for the most part mean nothing,,, for example the 5mph impact bumper? millions upon millions wasted and what was accomplished? bumperless cars. The biggest irony here is you are probably one of two people who understand that the DOT standards cost us ad don’t SAVE us, either way you look at it.

          • Robert Couture

            That same bus burdedned with today’s emmision standards as required by the EPA and CARB would be lucky to get 10 mpg highway.

      • Gene Harmon

        They have already said the final model of this in 2016 will meet(or exceed) all states DOT standards.

        • dragon5126

          two points, the first is IF it makes production For the US market, since they can not sell it here if it is not 50 state compliant, which makes their statement moot. And secondly and more importantly, is after (and IF) it meets compliance what will be the final fuel consumption figures? This isn’t to say a substantial increase in fuel consumption wouldn’t leave the vehicle as viable alternative and still give excellent MPG, rather the point is our government places some ridiculous safety standards, no, safety requirements they CALL standards, on vehicles that cause undue weight increases that reduce fuel mileages. If they placed REAL standards rather than requirements things like glass weight (one of the worst requirements) could be reduced by sandwiching a polycarbonate with glass, making an impact proof scratch resistant windshield at half the weight, One manufacturer has already demonstrated this only to have it rejected by the DOT. The list goes on and on and on. But the dot Gov doesn’t care about the real world.

      • Bruce Clark

        Enjoying those kickbacks? Lobbyist? Murica’?

        • dragon5126

          Bruce, when you get that cranial rectal inversion issue taken care of, come back to the discussion, SUVs are NOT any more dangerous than any other vehicle, and in fact have been shown to be the safest category made. they have no greater stopping distance than any other vehicle in the same weight class, and in most cases. due to the tire sizes and designs utilized, much less, As for flipping over, this is only an issue when driven outside safe parameters in which all vehicles exhibit different handling issues and they are NOT marketed to “aggressive drivers”, quite the opposite, they are the replacement for the minivan, and are marketed to the “soccer moms” and the family man as the second vehicle, for bad weather and weekend get aways. So with all your fallacies and abject lies, your outright attempt to start a flame war leave you with only one semitrue argument. Fuel Efficiency. but that is a very subjective aspect, since you cant tow a boat or RV with an economy car. SO in short go take your game playing and attempts to start juvenile fights to face book or myspace where the mentality is much more on your level and leave us discuss this in a reasonable and adult manner where cause and effect can be looked at with out some idiot pointing fingers and crying like a baby because they are afraid of the truth.

    • apostasyusa

      No no….. You are right, Rush Limbaugh is delusional.

  • Jeff Lindstrom

    Quiet down… it’s already been here. Quit spreading falshoods.
    http://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-261-mpg-volkswagen-xl1-in-manhattan-becaus-1482688104

    • Bruce Clark

      It was under heavy restriction for reasons an American made car would never be considered for? Maybe it wasn’t completely kept out, but there was foul play to crush any marketing for it. If you can’t smell it then maybe you’ve been smoking too long.

      • rose harris

        the lds Mormon chutch owns the mavirick gas stations in the west and they want to sell lots of gas to make lots of money,,thats what the Mormon church is about,..your money in there pocket..tcar herehere not going to let v w sell that

        • Seriously

          Rose Harris you are an idiot.

        • Mike Arbon

          Rose Harris, get a grip on reality!

  • Duane Moore

    Think about it, a Honda Civic got 50+ mpg in the late 1970s and todays Honda Civic only gets in the 30s mpg. Is that truly 40+ years of technology?

    • http://www.FUCKTHEGOV.com David

      You better believe it! They will get you if you disagree

    • Jean-Luc Rivard

      Yeah, but those cars also had 50 BHP, and spewed pollution. Part of why cars are less efficient now is due to the strict environmental emission standards. And they need to be more powerful to be able to drive 75 mph on American Highways.

      • Duane Moore

        I see you believe the media hype. That is why we are stuck with what they serve us.

        • John Doe

          Sounds like he is just being a devils advocate and showing you the logic of the other side.
          Because he is not disagreeing with you Duane he just added a but.

        • Jean-Luc Rivard

          I believe science, and simply put, the EPA’s regulations on emissions severely hamper efficiency. This knowledge comes from talking to and being friends with many mechanics who are, to put it lightly, probably more of a wingnut than any of you guys.

          But you know, continue ignoring science when it doesn’t line up with your “must think the opposite of everything the mainstream media says.”

          • Jean-Luc Rivard

            For an example, look to the TDI versions of VW cars in Europe that get about 54 MPG, but here in the states due to CCV (Crank Case Ventilation) regulations on all diesel fuel cars the MPG is dropped to 35MPG. You can’t have it both ways, yet, a environmentally sound vehicle in the sense of emissions, and a highly efficient engine system capable of extremely high MPGs.

            By Yet, you can clearly see they are coming, as evidenced by the car mentioned in this article. But this article is misleading. For one, only 250 cars are being made in Europe, not the stated 2000 in this article.

            But you know, keep living with your head up your ass. Not everything is a conspiracy, and you take away the validity and concerns for real conspiracies when you make every damn thing that happens a conspiracy.

          • Duane Moore

            While I do agree with your science, I do not agree with your reasoning. Myself, I would love a 300 mpg car, even an 80 – 100 mpg car would be great. I am willing to risk that less than 1% extra pollutants for a 200 – 500W% increase in mileage. Actually, so much less fuel will be burnt that the overall total pollutants will be much less than they are now with low mileage cars burning more fuel. More fuel burnt equals more pollutants. So your emission control reason holds no water. Sorry sir.

          • Jean-Luc Rivard

            I agree with that completely, except the part about my emissions control. My point about the whole thing is stringent emission controls reduce the efficiency of cars. Which is fact. As evidenced by my post below. Of course a car that gets better gas mileage, past the break even point between the two, is better for the environment, I don’t really see how that is up for debate, and I wasn’t trying to debate it. I’m saying those Hondas from the 70’s were still pollution machines (maybe not compared to the muscle cars, but they still polluted), and emissions standards from the EPA rob efficiency. I don’t really see how those are up for debate either?

          • ProDigit

            Elio, 89mpg, pure gasoline, no electrics

          • Adam Marsden

            the amount of pollutants are not directly related to the amount of fuel burnt, but how cleanly that fuel is burnt and at what temperature. you have to balance out CO with NOx emmissions

          • Kurt Wullenweber

            You act so smart, Jean-Luc, but explain to me EXACTLY how getting 35 miles per gallon can POSSIBLY pollute less than getting 54 mpg. Basic physics throws the theory right under the bus (that could be getting 25 MPG) The claim is made that catalytic converters burn off excess hydrocarbons, but what about that extra 15 MPG worth of EXTRA fuel being burnt? They make the claims about cat. converters because it was the only solution they could come up with, so they claim what it solves was the only problem. The extra pollution made, energy used and resources wasted for that fuel that could have powered the vehicle an additional 35% is not even considered or calculated.

          • Jean-Luc Rivard

            I don’t recall ever saying that. I am simply pointing out that the EPA’s regulations on emissions is what prevents those cars from the 70’s that got 40mpg (not the 50mpg as stated) from being able to do that today. The very reason that Honda abandoned their Compound Vortex Controlled Combustion (CVCC) engines that were found in the old model Honda’s is entirely because they could not keep up with the emissions standards that were evolving, even though originally they were designed to be as efficient as possible and did not require the Catalytic Converters as their emissions was low enough without them to not need them. However, as emissions standards grew more stringent they no longer were capable of meeting the standards and then Honda went to the fuel injection model and put cat converters on their cars, which, by their very nature, robs efficiency.

            That was my only point, which is fact. But thanks for twisting my words.

          • Kurt Wullenweber

            “Part of why cars are less efficient now is due to the strict environmental emission standards.”
            This is where I thought you were defending the standards that are definitely causing less fuel efficiency.
            My apologies for misunderstanding your points.

          • Jean-Luc Rivard

            Def not defending them. Just pointing it out to explain why after 40+ years of technology and Civics get less MPH than the ones in 70’s.

          • ProDigit

            More hp, faster acceleration and top speeds.
            Top mpg is achieved between 40 to 50mph on a wind still day. Cars nowadays either do ciry (sstart stop), or highway (60+mph)

          • Scott Garner

            The reason the 1973 Civic got good mileage was the fact it only weighed 1450 LBS. Emission controls aren’t the big culprit in the reduction of fuel economy, it is the fact that cars weigh more than double than they did in the 70’s. It is a safety issue. For cars to pass the crash tests, they need reinforcement which adds weight. Volumetric efficiency is much better these days with the use of fuel injection and computer controlled ignition. These computer controls also allow them to boost compression without all the problems that carburetor and point ignition vehicles posed. The reason that the market here doesn’t do well with cars like this, is because they are a small market. You have way too many people buying big cars and SUV’s. The only time people trend away from these types of vehicles is when the cost of operation becomes too burdensome to their pocket books. Car companies are more than capable of producing these vehicles, but they are in business to make money. Why would a company build costly development vehicles when they and their shareholders get a larger return from the larger market vehicles? I think it is getting better, but remember that the customer dictates the product.

          • Alex

            It can pollute less because you should be thinking of chemistry, not physics. It is a trade-off, you’re correct, but one made to reduce harmful contaminants of the exhaust, NOx’s, CO, and those excess hydrocarbons, contaminants which contribute heavily to smog-related health problems. In this country where so many people drive, that has to be weighted more heavily in the calculation. The trade-off comes from the fact that the cats work best closer to perfect combustion, whereas fuel economy is best in leaner mixtures. This trade results in 10% or so higher CO2 emissions from having to burn a richer fuel mixture. Jean-Luc is correct, you can’t have it both ways; not in an internal combustion engine anyways.

          • Jean-Luc Rivard

            Less air pollutants, which is what the EPA is regulating against, exactly. Even though those Hondas in the 70’s used less energy and resources, they put out more air pollutants. Thanks for explaining that so well for me.

          • Vinsanity76

            That gave my brain a woody. Excellently written. Thanks!

          • Andy

            The emissions on the American car are lower despite the lower economy. Why? Because there’s a lot more filtering equipment built in. In reality, American cars might (I honestly don’t know, because I never bothered to look into it) actually produce MORE pollution, but it gets filtered out.

            The fact is, though, that if you take an American car with emissions controls and remove them, it will either get better fuel economy or not work at all (depending on what the controls are).

          • ProDigit

            It’s all about how clean it burns.
            Some Chinese scooters are not Calif certified, because they have an excessive unburned fuel of 20x other vehicles. Even if they get double the gas mileage.
            They don’t care about burning fuel. They only care about burning it cleanly.

          • Kurt Wullenweber

            “They don’t care about burning fuel. They only care about burning it cleanly.”
            Therein lies the problem. They don’t care about burning it cleanly, they care about burning it ALL. If they cared about burning it cleanly, they would care about how to raise the thermal efficiency of the engine, rather than coming up with fuel consuming after-engine equipment to burn it without receiving propulsion from it. The CVCC engines greatly enhanced the fuel efficiency of the engine, itself, plainly meeting the intent of legislation, but because it didn’t meet the LETTER of the legislation, was forced to be dropped. Mazda now has their SkyActive drive trains that greatly enhance the thermal efficiency of the engine and friction loss efficiency in the drive train. Since I manufacture their shipping containers for remanufacture and they are NOT buying them for these engines, I know they are also reliable. They do it through accurately timed fuel injection, allowing them to have very high compression ratios without detonation.
            In the same way the answer to CO limits back in the 70s (that were measured as percentage, rather than amount) was to install air pumps to pump fresh air into the exhaust system to lower the percentage, governments force R&D for patches rather than a cure.
            The answer to BOTH efficiency and pollution lie on the same path – burn every atom of fuel being put into the vehicle to advance propulsion as efficiently as possible and let NONE of the fuel or heat from it’s use, out of the car.

          • AJ

            let alone carrying the weight of it.

          • Vinsanity76

            Thank you.

          • Del Sharp

            You’re a moron. If car A gets 40 mpg, and car B gets 300mpg, which car is more likely to be burning the hydrocarbons more completely? Take all the time you need.

          • Duane Moore

            Well said.

          • AJ

            Good point again! But I think this may be the case when your looking towards efficiency in burning fossil fuels in a combustion engine, but electric vehicles yield great efficiency whilst having little environmental impact. Yet somehow have not really taken off, also why would lobbyist groups exist if everything was above board, surely self respecting consumers would not need convincing one way or another if all motivations came from the right thing, not the selfish profitable motivations.

            Also I think to add another conspiracy maybe your an oil lobbyist posing as a dismissive idiot, how can we begin to free ourselves from the likes of your dark age way of thinking, if you constantly tighten the reigns placed upon you with the means you have to remove them. Exercising free speech whether right or wrong does not mean your head is up your ass, and to question ones masters is intelligent. Who wouldn’t question the most comfortable, profitable, powerful few at the top, who happen to call the shots in a political system that deem it worthy and just to go kill a million people in a slaughtering (not war) that cost many lives, went against the supposed democracy and will of the people and somehow yielded much profit for private companies operating there through no open tender pitching for contracts, which inevitably links back to the powerful few (for want of a better name).
            oh my..

            If you want a conspiracy, why base your argument on science spoon fed to you by the curriculum put forward by the very people in mention, surely thats one sided. Assume nothing! Question Everything, you need’nt dismiss with a conspiracy, but investigate.

            Amen Duane Moore’s comment below.

          • AJ

            good point! That must be why mechanics work to develop high efficiency engines and not work shitty comparatively low paid jobs with shit hours, getting moaned at by soccer moms, burning out clutches – because they can’t drive.

      • Novah Kane

        …and then let the govts rob you for going 75 in a 60mph zone lol

        • Jean-Luc Rivard

          Most of the highways in my state are 75mph highways. So… not really sure what you are going after here.

          • Eric Strohmaier

            Ya where Jean Luc lives most of the highways are 75 mph, so obviously its the same everywhere. Not really sure where your going after here Jean

          • Jean-Luc Rivard

            Obviously cars need to be designed to at least get 75 MPH for American roads, which was my point. I wasn’t sure what his was a this was in response to my post saying “And they need to be more powerful to be able to drive 75 mph on American Highways.”

            It seemed to me that he was saying that if you go 75 you’ll get a fine cause all highways are 60 mph. I was pointing out that the roads in my state are 75, which does in fact mean that they need to be designed to go that fast, and that the government wont rob you for doing 75 in a 75.

      • Mario Enrique

        Bro, you are stupid beyond measure. Hondas then didn’t pollute the air like our diesel trucks or our 1970’s generation muscle cars. Get the fuck out of here with your bullshit.

        • Jean-Luc Rivard

          Cool story….. “Bro”

          • Mario Enrique

            Continue to prove yourself as stupid as you sound. You’re not worth my time.

          • Patrick McCoy

            Hey, Mario. It takes a big man to talk shit to someone on a discussion forum.. for discussing stuff. It takes an even bigger man to put photos of his chubby ass standing in front of a mirror at the gym. Get outta’ here. You look like the fucking Michelin man. You, sir, are the ultimate douche and I do believe you deserve a right hook straight to the jaw.

          • Tezmond

            right cross mate, its a right cross

          • Mario Enrique

            Bitch, stop being a keyboard warrior. And you must be one fucking blind ass mother fucker to say Im fat you fucking retard.

          • Mario Enrique

            Patrick McCoy, I would love for you to even try giving me a right hook. I would break both your fucking arms you fat fuck. I got a 18 1/2 in neck, 54 in chest, 17 in arms, and a 35 in waist. Yeah, that fucking sounds like a fat ass to anyone. Bitch troll on someone elses comments you piece of shit. And when I do get back to Colorado from Kuwait, I would love for you to come see me so you can get the ass whipping of your 50 year old life. Get the fuck out of here. You are a straight ass bitch

          • Patrick McCoy

            It took you two hours of stewing.. for that? Uh oh, now I’m a fat fuck? We’re clearly dealing with an intellectual here. BTW, speaking of troll, remind yourself of how this conversation even started.

            At any rate, you clearly are a total badass. I have two reasons to absolutely fear you. You, A: Posted some stats of yourself (which when compared to your gay-ass gym selfy really makes me want to shit my pants), and B: Because you offered to meet up with me after you get back in the states so we could fight. You’re obviously at the top of the man food-chain. Or an absolute rock. Something you’ll figure out one day when your balls drop, you’re hardly the biggest fish in the sea. In fact, from the sounds of it, you’re not even the biggest guy in this conversation. While on the topic, I train 10-16 hours a week to be good at beating people up, so before you make assumptions about breaking anybody’s arms, might want to sit back and think about what you know about them. Grow up, boy.

            I have to make the assumption that you think I’m 50 from my facebook. First, my date of birth on facebook is false, which would’ve taken the average educated person about 2 seconds to figure out. It would’ve taken a dumbass a few minutes. You couldn’t figure it out period, so that doesn’t speak volumes about you. 2nd, a person born in 1956 would be 58 today.

            I say again, you giant meat-head, remind yourself how this conversation even started. Now, go fuck off and eat your creatine so you can be like the big boys.

          • Mario Enrique

            How about you put your money where your bitch mouth is you punk ass bitch. I don’t look troll on peoples accounts like you do. But if you want to fucking do something about it, come to Fort Carson in July. Ill be glad to whip your bitch ass

          • Patrick McCoy

            No, you’re the one who thinks they have something to prove, so you come to me. You’ve already trolled on my account so you know where I am. I can find plenty of people around here to smack around, I won’t be flying anywhere to do it. But you already know that which is why you make the suggestion. Get lost you pussy. You’re a dime a dozen meat-head. You’ll figure it all out one day.

          • Mario Enrique

            Bitch where the fuck you at. I’ll be glad to use you as a punching bag. And if have any balls you will fucking tell me. Heres my email address. I’ll make sure to beat the shit out of you you fucking bitch. nicaspeed_23@hotmail.com.

          • Patrick McCoy

            What the fuck do I need your email address for? Are we going to have an email fight? Did you hit your head when you were a kid?

          • Mario Enrique

            Bitch, stop fucking writing you keyboard warrior. That’s all you can do is write some shit and think its fucking ok. Back your talk up and fucking do something about it you fucking pussy. And first of all, I don’t need to prove shit to anyone but when bitch ass people like yourself think its cool to say something when you don’t know shit, that’s an issue I am willing to take care of. Now how about you give me your fucking address so I can whip your fucking ass in front of your family or shut the fuck up and continue to be the bitch that you are.

          • Patrick McCoy

            Good idea. I’m just going to give my home address to some punk of the internet who obviously has about two brain cells he’s rubbing together. I’ll give you the address to my gym, though. You should check it out. I say again you daft idiot, how did this conversation even get started? Come on… think……. think…. now go lie down.

          • Mario Enrique

            Bitch why don’t you fucking just shut the fuck up. You’re not a fucking man, you have nothing else better to do and fucking stare at your fucking computer thinking you know something. And being the bitch you are, I know you don’t have the balls to fucking stand up for the shit that your nasty ass mouth is putting on this forum. So why don’t you fucking do society a favor and kill yourself off in the woods like the old piece of shit you really are.

          • Patrick McCoy

            No, YOU shut the fuck up. You came on here acting like you could just tell people what they should and shouldn’t say, so it is you that needs to check himself. And seriously, the only reason you’re suggesting I fly out to meet you so we can bang on each other is because you know that ain’t gonna’ happen. I have better things to do than to take anyone on the web so seriously that I feel the need to go out and buy plane tickets to their FUCKING GYM location so I can put him into a coma. I’ve met a lot of retarded shit bags on the internet over the years, but you pretty much take the cake. Who the fuck really posts their measurements on places like this thinking they’re going to win an argument based off of them? You’re a retarded little fuck. I could probably count one one hand the people I’ve met who talked a lot of stupid shit and could actually back it up, and I know you aren’t one of them. You’re just a pudgy little mouthy bitch, nothing more, nothing less. I’m done with you. Go get hit by a fucking bus on your way to get your creatine that you so desperately need.

          • Mario Enrique

            Bitch, was I even talking to you. I was talking to Jean Luc, you fucking idiot. You fucking jumped into a conversation I was having with him. Now get the fuck off of my nuts and bitch, if you have any fucking balls you would tell me where to meet you so I could fucking whip you fucking clean off this earth and do everyone a fucking favor. Now stop fucking writing anything else on here because all you are is a bitch. You take the cake cuz you have no fucking balls to man up to what the fuck youre writing asshole. Now go bang your head along your fucking piece of shit trailer trash apartment and kill yourself.

          • Patrick McCoy

            Alright, now I feel like I’m picking on a retarded kid. You’ve straight up lost all composure and need to go lie down. But go ahead, give me your home addy. I’ll stalk you or something when you get back from Kuwait. Hooooollly shit.

          • Mario Enrique

            Really, lets do this bitch. Fort Carson Iron Horse Gym anytime in July. Lets see if you have any balls, because I all ready know you have no fucking intelligence

          • Patrick McCoy

            Oh that’s rich. The pudgy little bitch that’s suggesting we fly to each other’s homes to fist fight is telling me I have no intelligence. Or no, wait, you’re suggesting we meet at your gym to duke it out. See, if you don’t like big strong men like me to talk shit to you, perhaps you should do a better job of not being a complete shit-head. Problem would be solved. Did you get that creatine yet?

          • Mario Enrique

            Pudgy bitch? Really? You have no fucking clue what pudgy looks like, oh wait, look in the mirror fag. Continue to be a fucking keyboard warrior. You have no balls whatsoever so I am done wasting my time with dipshits like you. You’re like every other fucking bitch who fucking think you can say anything on here thinking youre a fucking man typing stupid shit. Get a life, oh wait, you don’t have one. You just troll around. Continue to troll around bitch.

          • Patrick McCoy

            I’ve had debates with fish that were more intelligent than the one you’re trying to provide. I’m bigger than you. I’m probably a shit load stronger than you. I toss little shits like you around on a mat 5 days a week. I assure you, you don’t concern me one bit my pudgy little man. But you’re right, I probably should go ahead and get a fucking plane ticket in July to fly out to Colorado so I can meet you at your gym to duke it out.

            Again, you’ve failed to understand that had YOU not been acting like a trolling bitch, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. Go get your creatine.

          • Patrick McCoy

            You really are a special kind of stupid. Quiet now before your mom spanks you.

          • Mario Enrique

            Debates with your little fucking toy dolls don’t count bitch. I will fucking destroy you. Iron Horse Gym. Fort Carson Colorado. Message me when you get there. I will be happy to fuck you up you piece of shit. And we’ll see how fucking tough you really are you fucking dipshit

          • Patrick McCoy

            You are a laughably stupid little man. I’ll tell you what, let’s meet in the playground next to the swing-set after school and we’re gonna’ settle this. I’ll get my airplane ticket tomorrow. Hold your breath until I get there. Want me to bring some creatine for you so you can workout better? By the way, your side of this argument has pretty much devolved into childish banter. You’ll want to work on that.

          • Guest

            all that.. and a 2 inch penis. Wow.

          • Mario Enrique

            That’s why you’re a bitch. Shut the fuck up and stop your fucking trolling you little bitch. If you had a wife, she probably has more balls than you do. You fucking twat.

          • Patrick McCoy

            No, you’re a bitch. Your wife has bigger balls than you. You’re a fucking twat.

            This is getting real boring. Did you finish HS?

          • Mario Enrique

            Did you finish clown school, because you’re not funny at all. I am 4 classes away from my masters in clinical psychology you fucking idiot. I don’t give two fucks about your opinion. Doesn’t mean shit to me. You don’t matter. Now go the fuck away and blow some balloon animals or something.

          • Patrick McCoy

            Yeah, you’re clearly ready to take on some patients. Since you don’t give two fucks about my opinion, I guess you won’t care that I think you’re a complete dip-shit and mouthy little bitch? And you look like the Michelin man. That probably doesn’t bother you at all.

          • Patrick McCoy

            Oh and while I’m on the topic, you have the mental capacity of a small lap-dog. Good thing this isn’t bothering you.

          • Mario Enrique

            No I really don’t give two fucks what you think you fucking faggot. Go drink your fucking prune juice and be the little bitch you have proved to fucking be. This is my last messgage to you. You have wasted my fucking time. Im done with your petty shit because for one, you proved youre a bitch, and two, everything you have said definitely has no merit. Go live in your delusional little world playing dungeons and dragons or what ever you fucking do to waste your fucking shitty ass life. PS tell your wife I love her cookies hahaha

          • Patrick McCoy

            Oh no, you do care. That much is clear. Yes, I’m a bitch because you’re all the way in another fucking country talking about how I should fly to Colorado in a few months to fight you! Lol, that’s classic. Uh oh, you said you love my wife’s cookies. That really bothers me. So much so that I am on my way to the airport right now to reserve a ticket to fly to Colorado in a few months to meet you at the gym and punch a hole through your head.

            Tell your wife I said I’m sorry her man is such a bitch-ass little boy he can’t take what he likes to dish. Of course, you probably beat her, so she likely knows already. Now come back here. I’m having fun picking on the animals.

          • Jean-Luc Rivard

            Cool story…. “Bro.”

          • Rasta Man Kennedy

            Read a few of your comments… I honestly feel bad for the people who have to deal with you on a regular basis man. Even when you’re right you’re a complete douche. Hope one day you realize you’re ego isn’t worth people resenting you.

          • An Angry Scotsman

            If you take anonymous words on the internet to heart, you already fail.

          • Rasta Man Kennedy

            Didn’t take the words to heart man, just informing him that he’s coming off as a douche and should really look into finding a better way of communication. But thanks for your insight brother, I’ll remember not to take anonymous internet words to heart, when a situation like that arises.

          • Rasta Man Kennedy

            Yes man, I completely agree with you. So what does this have to do with my comment? are you entertaining the idea that I’m hurt by this person’s style of communication? because I would have to ask you to reread my comment brother.

      • Aaron Lynch

        Unlike cars driving on the Autobahn? Gimme a break!

      • ProDigit

        Cars are more efficient now. More bhp.
        If the civic of the 70s had 50bhp, and 50mpg, todays has almost 150bhp, and 30mpg. Do the math

    • CynicalKiddo

      Yes! I am only 31 but have owned ~10 cars since I was 16. Only three of them were made after the 90s. And they are the only 3 that didn’t get better than 20–25 mpg. Absurd.

      • Liquid

        Sounds like you have a serious problem taking care of cars or, you are a terrible driver and total them. What’s the reasoning for owning 10 cars in 15 years? that’s more cars than most people go through their whole life.

        • CynicalKiddo

          10 cars is not a lot where I come from or for a person of my life circumstances: I live in Upstate NY where cars battle the elements. From age 16—25 I had ~8 cars. I didn’t total a single one of them. But they all had something in common; they were “beaters”, never costing more than $1,500 a piece…because my family and I don’t have disposable incomes. They were all old…not one had less 100K when I bought it. Sound like a scenario you can better understand now?

          I am now an owner of 2013 WRX, because I fucking love to drive and drive really well, too :-)

        • AJ

          maybe they were company cars, maybe just likes cars, maybe she borrowed them all, maybe she’s a drug baron and just keeps them moving, maybe they were boyfriends cars, maybe she was so expectant of the fucking overwhelming level of oppression on this post, that in her subconscious – in a half seconds thought, she exaggerated the amount, in expectation of being told her opinion was invalid due to the amount of cars being to low, because of people assuming no worth to each others opinions, only to be bashed on again by someone assuming the amount is not a valid amount of cars to have owned in said time (in their opinion).

          I’m loving this, we’re all so self righteous and yet so politically angry, or angry, yet politically complacent. Who knows?

          None of us, seemingly.

          (Now I’m playing the amicable, self righteous twat, brilliant, takes all forms)

      • Duane Moore

        Thank you! At last, someone who really gets the point. The point is, we were getting 40 – 50+ mpg in the 1970s and today, 40 years later, we aren’t getting that. 40 years people. What other technology has gotten away with being that stagnant for so long?

        • CynicalKiddo

          A lot of other technology, you know it! Our household technologies are built to break, not built to last. Which is why in my 91 year old friend’s home, she still uses blenders, microwaves and electric can openers from the 50s, her old washer / dryer lasted 30 years—yet microwaves and the likes only last a few years now. One more time…absurd! Wasting resources, filling landfills and robbing the people.

    • Gavin Varitech

      A.) No it didn’t. Low 40’s highway MPG for the CVCC (if you were brave enough to drive one on American freeways), but not 50+.

      B.) You must be thinking of HP. Because in the late 70’s the Honda Civic had a max BHP of 53. That’s the peak high-RPM measurement, it didn’t push 50 horses the entire time, only if you revved it high enough and shifted late. There are motorcycles with larger engines today.

      You see, today’s base Civic is insanely more efficient than the one we had in the late 70’s. It gets 39 MPG highway, almost the same as the late-70’s Civic, but puts out a tiny fraction of the emissions of the one you’re getting all teary eye’d about, while at the same time having just shy of TRIPLE the HP and more than double the torque. Not to mention it weighs more than double what the late 70’s car did.

      So yes, 30+ years of technology is right there (not 40+, you’re generous with the exaggerations, aren’t you?). Double the weight, triple the power, cut emissions, and still get relatively the same MPG. And the next Civic will have even better MPG. As will the next generation of all cars. My new Mazda gets over 40 mpg highway (if you stick at 65MPH) and has just shy of quadruple the power of that late 70’s Honda Civic.

      • Jean-Luc Rivard

        Boom. Scienced.

        • Guest

          The CRX of the 80s got 40+ average, and 50+ interstate. And if well-tuned, some even report 60 and beyond. 30+ years since, and you’re boasting about a 39mpg highway? give me a break. And I’m pretty sure I could out-shift an automatic modern civic in an old hatchback, so don’t tell me about all these efficient power/torque/blah-blah-blah improvements. It’s an not an acceptable enough improvement. Just admit the oil lobby affects the bottom line we’re discussing here, mpg performance. Stop being a contentious prick.

        • Ryan Cekander

          The CRX of the 80s got 40+ average, and 50+ interstate. And if well-tuned, some even report 60 and beyond. 30+ years since, and you’re boasting about a 39mpg highway? give me a break. And I’m pretty sure I could out-shift an automatic modern civic in an old hatchback, so don’t tell me about all these efficient power/torque/blah-blah-blah improvements. It’s an not an acceptable enough improvement IMO. Do you deniers believe that oil interests do not affect the bottom line we’re discussing here, mpg, in any way? I personally find the truth usually lies somewhere between the extremes, erring on the side of evil, because they’re more likely to skew and hide the truth.

          • Adam Marsden

            I suggest you google “power to weight ratio”
            Cars have become a lot heavier mainly due to safety rules, plus extra comforts. 80s hot-hatches had no air bags, impact bars, crumple zones, electric seats & windows etc.
            Do you really think the oil companies would choose to sell twice the oil at half the price rather than half the oil at twice the price??

          • BrianAbbey

            Hold up, what economics universe are you living in? Basic economics check here. If demand is cut by 75% because cars get better mileage, how do you figure that prices would go up?! Seriously Econ 101 here. As demand decreases (because cars get better mileage and require less gasoline), supply increases and gas prices are drastically reduced. Under no economic system do prices double when the bottom drops out of demand. It’s like Cadbury Easter eggs the day after Easter. They don’t double in price, they go on sale 3 for $1.

          • Adam Marsden

            Yeah because oil & gas prices are a “free market”! UK cars use less fuel than US cars, but the fuel is a lot more expensive – throws your theory out the window eh. here in the UK there’s been a big push to introduce energy saving measures – low energy light bulbs, insulation, smart energy meters etc. Has this resulted in cheaper bills for consumers? has it hell! it just means the price per kW increases as the energy companies try to keep profits up.

          • Maximus Max

            Regulated into inefficiency…

          • Duane Moore

            You are hitting the nail on the head Ryan. Bravo!

          • Gavin Varitech

            The first generation CRX HF (the one that got up to 54 highway MPG) weighed weighed 1,700 lbs and had a grand total of 60 bhp and you had to rev it to 5,500 RPMS to get there (meaning to even see close to 60hp that MPG average was going WAAAAYYYYY down). It took something like 13 seconds to get to 60MPH! Not to mention it wasn’t saddled by safety and emissions regulations that American cars are subject to today.

            If an automaker were allowed to make a car that weighed 1,700 without modern safety and emissions standards affecting the design they could easily make one that got way more MPG and HP. Things have changed, significantly, for the better. And they continue to go in that direction.

            The next generation Mazda2 (which still weighs way more than the CRX did and also has double the power) is rumored to get up to 70MPG. The VW engines this “article” says are not coming here ARE coming here as well. Even if they are not here today (there are only 200 built for sale in the world so far).

            Just because you think it isn’t fast enough doesn’t mean there is some sort of collusion where the oil lobby (a horrible group) is somehow in the pocket of EVERY automaker in the world ensuring MPG doesn’t rise that fast. Believe me, their profits are safe as can be just with population growth and people in emerging markets (China, India) buying cars for the first time. Even with ever-improving MPGs.

            We went to the moon in 1969 but haven’t been to Mars yet. Who’s fault is that?

          • Maximus Max

            Isn’t happening fast enough??? Are you thick???

            How long from start to finish did it take to win the race to the moon with the soviets? We don’t WANT to win this race. It’s not that complicated.

          • Michele Garrison

            I had a 1985 Honda CRX HF. I averaged 47 mpg around town, and driving on flat highway through PA I averaged 63 mpg, and that was the automatic!

            People can claim that they didn’t, but I drove one, and know better. Hybrids are pretty poor in comparison, to me! And as far as pickup goes, I never once had a problem getting onto any highway.

      • Duane Moore

        I’m glad you are happy with 40 mpg. I’m not.

        • Gavin Varitech

          I’m glad you’re happy with being stupid. I’m not.

          If you don’t have anything to say within the context of the conversation, just don’t say anything.

          And you’re goddam right I’m happy with 40MPG from a 3,000 lb, naturally-aspirated, non-hybrid, car with has 190hp. The Honda engineers that made the late 70’s Civic would shit their pants with that sort of efficiency.

          • Duane Moore

            Really? 40 MPG with 190 hp? I had a 1970 Dodge Charger with a 425 hp 440ci engine that weighed almost 4000 lbs that got over 20 mpg at 70 mph!!!! That was 44 years ago. Yep, that car you have is a fucking wonder of science. Enjoy it!!

          • Gavin Varitech

            Remember this? “If you don’t have anything to say within the context of the conversation, just don’t say anything.”

            Also you’re full of shit. Nothing new, your first post I responded to proved that, but like the 50+ MPG comment about the late 70’s Civic you’re lying (or just wrong) about the Dodge Charger getting 20+ MPG under any circumstances. Not to mention you lost at least 25% of that 425 hp through the drivetrain before it even got to the wheels.

          • Derick Christopher Storie

            Its within the context Gavin. He is talking about weight, mpg, speed, hp. All Within a article that could have been a lot shorter. Dumb ass.

          • Gavin Varitech

            Its not in context of the way the conversation went, and it really had nothing to do with what I said(or if it did at least it was a horrible argument).

            How’s this for context? Derick just called someone a dumb ass after typing “a article”. I get typos and all but if you are going to call someone a dumb-ass it makes a lot of sense to read over your post a couple times before submitting it because, well you know, you run the risk of looking like a dumb-ass.

          • Gar

            “…non-hybrid, car with has 190hp…”. Gavin had previously typed “I get typos and all but if you are going to call someone a dumb-ass it makes a lot of sense to read over your post a couple times before submitting it because, well you know, you run the risk of looking like a dumb-ass”.
            Ladies and gentlemen, ipse dixit, Gavin has just called himself a dumb-ass.

          • jrev2020

            Gavin Varitech YOU ARE JUST MAKING YOURSELF LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE DOUCHEBAG ASSHOLE ON HERE.

          • Jason Revolinski

            yer an idiot Gavin….stop being a Nazi…people can say what they want and you either deal with it or make yourself look like an ass, or just move on…though I am finding parody in your enthusiastic engineering rhetoric.

          • Gar

            “…non-hybrid, car with has 190hp…”. Gavin had later typed “I get typos and all but if you are going to call someone a dumb-ass it makes a lot of sense to read over your post a couple times before submitting it because, well you know, you run the risk of looking like a dumb-ass”.
            Ladies and gentlemen, ipse dixit, Gavin has just called himself a dumb-ass.

    • Edward Grimes

      We have emission control which drops our MPG look it up.

  • Hempy mchemperson

    This article isn’t very solution oriented. There’s a lot more of us than of them, they being the ones attempting to stifle this breakthrough. What suggestions can be offered to destroy that which is stifling it, and encourage Volkswagen to mainstream its production?

  • Peter Wood

    Let’s be clear on this issue. THE US government needs cars that get less mpg so that they can collect MORE money from the sale of gasoline/diesel as well as the oil companies making a profit. The US guberment is planning on taxing/”tolling” the highways of the US due to the fact that the automobiles being manufactured today get better mpg. Hmmm… so they will tax the FREEWAYS across the US? Of course they won’t set up tollbooths, no, they will set up a system such as Illinois or any number of states have, that when you drive across it you will be automatically charged. of course you will need to have this system in your car or you will have to pay a higher price when you do pay via the internet or throwing REAL money in a basket.

  • dragon5126

    there is a lot of BS in this article. the lack of mention of torque figures for one, this is nothing more than a two seat scooter,

  • Zionistout

    Affordable at 60,000? Where? Not here in the US. The vast majority of poor Americans who could use a car that efficient can’t afford them and the rich yuppies who are pulling in 50,000 a year or even better can afford to drive around in the big old gas guzzlers. The car would have to be $15,000 for it to even be considered affordable to even a large portion of the US citizenry. Sorry at 60k that is waaaay to expensive. Even at $15k the car would only see a small portion of the poor working class.

    • zeromein

      This is why you are poor. You don’t think long term.

    • BobE

      The $60,000 price tag is for a handmade car due to production limits. They state that automating an assembly line and upping production would cut that in half to $30,000. I believe this is more cost effective than a Prius even after the tax incentives. It would cost $12 to go 800 miles, which would add up to savings in the thousands a year. Where’s the negative?

      • dragon5126

        Bob, the AUTHOR SPECULATES that production line manufacturing would lower the price, NOT VW.

        • Gavin Varitech

          Correct. Everything I see says it will be between $120,000 – $160,000 in USD.

          But then again everything about this “article” is bullshit.

          • dragon5126

            Historically, the production costs of vehicles like this has ALWAYS RISEN even with production line manufacturing, after they meet DOT specs…
            I miss the days when authors Knew what the H they were talking about…

    • zack

      blame the jews?…for german technology….?

    • oillover

      Maybe if people got together and pooled the money for manufacture on a large scale? Why are we leaving it all up to “them” in the investment world? Well, I know, trust is always an issue…and they know it. If I won a few million, I think I’d like to run with that!

    • Juan Rivera-Count Prince

      New technology… I’ve always been a champion for new technology. But what’s good about new technology if you can afford it? What’s good about a car that is healthy for the environment but i can’t afford? Does that make any sense??? Sure if I was a rich yuppie…I could care less about mpg. Hell, I would say,”I can afford to fill up my gas tank and the hell with everything else.” Once again, I’m all go for new technology and implementing the such to make us and the environment better. But what’s the use if I can’t afford it???

    • Ali Gee

      “Rich yuppies who are pulling in $50,00 a year”… How old are you, 12?! I would consider $50k a year to be middle class for a single person. I don’t know anyone who could comfortably raise a family of four with that income.

    • Gavin Varitech

      “Rich yuppies pulling in $50,000 a year”? Where do you live, deep in Mississippi? Where I live $50,000 a year hardly gets you by. Nor did I know I was a rich yuppie!

      P.S. Its hard to find a new car for $15k at all in America.

  • Bob Gray

    sickening , greed , greed , greed !

  • ivan67702000@yahoo.com

    I see Global Warming has it’s limits? With a enlist supply of Hypocrisy?

  • LauraNo

    My car gets 64 mpg. Mitsubishi Mirage.

  • Defiant

    Terrible article. If the government really wanted to hide this car I wouldn’t have been able to stumble upon this article. The car is just another “micro-car.” It gets good mileage because it’s basically a Vespa.

    • HolyChrist

      They never said “hide the car”. The car is also 1900 lbs and thus not a micro-car, Vespa. Did you read the article you stumbled upon?

      • dragon5126

        I’ve read it any car under one ton (2000 lb) curb weight is a vespa, for example the 2014 Honda Civic depending on trim weighs in between 2754 and 2930, the smart car comes in at 1808 so yeah its a scooter with 4 wheels

    • dragon5126

      excellent point. I can take a Chevy or Ford big block and build a two seater around it and get close to 90 mpg out of it. How? limit the overall weight, regear the H out of it with a broad range ratio and a tall overdrive 6 to 8 speed manual. there is no big secret about how to do it. the basic point is marketing and practicality of the vehicle… are you building a commuter, s family vehicle or a toy?

  • barrashee

    The writer holds corporations responsible, but it is also the government in terms of inflexible mandates without regard to outcome, and the government would not want to lose it’s gas tax revenue. It is the collusion of government and business which is worst for the people, the opposite of a free market.

    • Juan Rivera-Count Prince

      Just imagine if we could implement the same rules as separation from church and state to also include separation from business and state! Wouldn’t that be beautiful???

  • ……

    Sad world we live in when technology like this exists and we are denied it….

  • Tsh M E Aigo

    So when confronted by a political system that caters specifically too corporate and industrialist agenda’s, at the expense of the saftey and well being of the majority and with design prohibits the majority, information that they would and could well benefit from, that this system knowingly engages in the act of repression and suppression of information soley too aid and benifit the Industrialist minority. This political system is then called what?

    • Juan Rivera-Count Prince

      It would be called a…puppet-capitalistic-socialist system.

  • HolyChrist

    Money was recently labeled as “free speech”. Don’t expect the powerful oil and auto corporations to allow a change to these limitations any time soon.

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  • Kate Childers

    If it is true that sucks!

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  • Kambiz Salari

    I say F!?k the oil companies they never did any things to help any body beside filling their pockets and trashing our lands and sea & polluting Air… Is times kick them out of our pockets and allowing our self’s better life, better Air & safer cars …

  • David McElroy

    The biggest part of the price of gasoline is TAX paid to government. By way of various investments of pension funds, fee funds, etc., government owns a majority vote on the board of Exxon/Mobil and has major shares of other oil companies also. No surprise that super efficient automotive engines or free energy devices are prohibited by law. Not to mention Obama’s “War on Coal”! Government is Mafia!

    • dragon5126

      Don’t blame the Dagos, they don’t like Obama either!

  • Gene Harmon

    this article is a lie. The only reason they are doing a 50 run in germany is this is a test model. This car was JUST “on tour” in new york last month.

  • Mike Cody

    Yeah It’s already been in America. They are only making 250 of them and they are going to cost $150,000. It’s not that the government is trying to hide it from us, it’s that only the wealthy that have already pre-ordered one are going to get it. If one of my friend’s is going to post one of your stories on their page, please don’t make them look stupid because you chose not to do your research.

    http://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-261-mpg-volkswagen-xl1-in-manhattan-becaus-1482688104

  • Mike Cody

    And here’s the Ellio: http://www.eliomotors.com/ It gets 86 MPG, is only 6,800 bucks, has an anticipated 5 star crash rating and is made in america

  • Stromdiddily

    Could you have at least pretended to be interested in any other possible reasons why the car is not destined for the states? Your anti-oil bias, while a valid stance, overpowers what could be a really informative piece

  • Frenchy

    Who holds back the electric car,Who makes Steve Gutenburg A Star wee doooo, weee dooooo.

  • Friendly Hacker

    I think its just not economically viable to be mass produced, why would anyone want to spend almost a million dollars on a car fully built in carbon fibre? It’s so expensive that even if you were to never refuel it, you would never save enough money in gas to make the purchase worth it.

    Last time I heard about commercialization of this, a couple years ago, it was mentioned the cost would be near a million.

    According to the German VW web site it will only be sold in Germany, but is not on sale yet and they have no idea about the price.

    “He will not come cheap are (the price is not yet fixed). The largest part of the body of the XL1 for example consists of a monocoque made of carbon fiber reinforced plastic, which is very good for the weight (more than 50 percent savings compared to metal), but not so good for the cost.¨

    http://magazin.volkswagen.de/xl1-hoch-hinaus.html

  • JoshyBalls

    Cannabis is being legalized. It’s over for big oil! The end of an era in America, just wait and see.

  • ursulas

    This story missed the fact that you can’t buy a VW Tiguan TDi in America either. We can only get the typical gas guzzling version here.

  • Frenchy

    Who holds back the Electric car? Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star? Wee Dooo WEE D0O0O0O0OOOOO

  • Erin Molnar

    Wait – he says the “only difference” is the engine – why couldn’t we switch out the improved engine post production? They may not be “legal.” But, honestly, how many of us are ready to don a Guy Fawkes mask, if only to fill up the tank once in a blue moon?

  • Daniel CatFish Spurlock

    People should do more research, this car is only being sold in Europe. They rounded it up it gets approximately 285mpg in pristine conditions, and sells for easily over 120kUSD. But the main reason its not being sold in America is because it’s a specialty car, VW plans to make no more than 250 of these cars.

    • 81chains

      It’s more about the fact that the technology DOES exist, but is being kept hidden from the masses…

      • Robert Henry

        This car has been toured in New York and reported on by a number of major automotive magazines including Motortrend. Just because you didn’t happen to hear about it, that doesn’t mean there is a conspiracy to keep it from the public. Hell, 5 minutes on Google could have told you that. The reason this isn’t front page news is because a super fuel efficient car that’s 40k more than the most expensive Tesla (that runs on no gas) just isn’t that interesting.

  • 81chains

    Devils advocate: infrastructure.

    Unless the American government can figure out how to maintain (or in reality, they need to increase) revenues for road/bridge repair, cars like this are horrible for this nations infrastructure.

    That said, I sure wish I could buy one of these – great for wallet, and the environment.

  • Gray Fox

    “The XL1 will not meet American emission standards NOT because it is
    not clean enough, it will not meet them simply because inefficient parts
    that are mandated by the EPA are not part of the XL1′s power train.”

    What parts?

  • Ross Sharrer

    Das Auto!

  • http://theextremeattitude.com/ Mark Tipton

    Water injectors were around in the 1920s at least. It is not a seventies thing actually. Wonder if these will be made available in the Philippines

  • flystraight

    This article is total BS. The car company Tesla proves my point. The Tesla is alive and well in the US and takes NO fuel.

    • orangelion03

      Well…except in New Jersey :) But there it’s because of the way Tesla want to market their cars. Traditional dealers dont like it.

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  • Chance Lowenberg

    “a full size 4 door Chevy Impala significantly beat the “Smart’s” fuel economy”
    BULL SH!T.
    I’ve gotten 50 mpg in my smart.

    Get your facts straight.

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  • DawnMarie Custer

    I had a Grandpa; and this is family legend. He had a car that was getting around 100MPG in the late 1960’s it was a car he apparently got “by mistake” from the manufacturer. They scrambled to get it back. Unfortunately the story is too handed down to have hard facts but that story has always resonated with this family. I just avoid MPG and use my bicycle as much as we can.

  • Tracy Gilbert

    This discussion is not about Pollutants its about money period. Charity, Cancer Research, Natural Disaster funds, are put together by people who want money, the desperation to obtain money, destroys the ethic and moral boundaries eaten up by the mass public. If someone is raising money, they are keeping most of it. The original members might have good intentions, but it takes corporate efforts to have these intentions implemented and that’s where the theft occurs. These cars steal money, therefore they are illegal. All that deny this at the heavyweight level will be paid off. The game has been over before you were born.

  • Jessica Orsini

    This is the part where I call bullshit. This article is an exercise in tinfoil-hat conspiracy-theory theatre.

    Sorry, but the XL1 has a *total* production run of 250, at $120,000 per car. *That* is why you won’t see it in the US; with a run that small, a manufacturer isn’t going to sacrifice the additional vehicles necessary for safety testing in the US.

    Now if this thing proves itself? Expect a follow-on mass-production version to follow… and that version almost certainly *will* go through US safety testing and enter the American market.

    • I’m george

      I think if is in production and more demand the price will drop. I means whats the need for a rich person to save gas.

  • Ron T

    I agree with the last person. If someone invents something very good they seem to disappear off the face of the earth. A few years ago a high school kid invented an engine that ran on water. He won lots of award and Got a Huge payoff from the Oil Companies to hand over all his notes and information on his project and if he tries to build another engine he will go to jail for breaking his agreement with his Big Oil Payoff.

  • Gavin Varitech

    Don’t answer this (because I already know your moronic answer, rhetorical question) but how come it is impossible to find any facts or information anywhere that corroborates this story (which itself cites a grand total of exactly ZERO sources) and on any of the regular conspiracy theory websites you can find this on it is nothing more than a cut-and-paste of the exact same words above?

    “The internet” happened yet again. And countless mindless drones eat it up without thinking twice.

    Generally speaking oil companies are not our friend and are only out for profits; but they don’t control every aspect of everything in the world or have ANYTHING to do with the initial limited production run of the X1, the fact that it is handmade or has carbon fiber parts, nor have they managed to get the X1 banned from the United States.

    • Bob_Knows

      Whatever sounds too good to be true usually isn’t true. This sounds like a load of cow manure, a corporation bash, and wishful thinking. Can’t even test it here? Rubbish!

  • Teresa Franey Howington

    Where can we kickstart fund this sucker to get higher production and a lower cost?

  • deutschebenz

    If you think for one minute that Europe would allow a car with high pollution then you’re crazy. If anything the European pollution controls are MORE stringent than the USA. Because Mercedes Benz developed the Bluetech technology for diesels, which is being shared with other companies, the European diesels are actually cleaner running than American gas powered cars. It isn’t the pollution controls I assure you!

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  • Mike Icon

    Traveled Europe this year and majority of their cars, trucks, and vans get 25 – 60 MPG. Their emission standards are higher there…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/09/12/even-with-stricter-new-rules-u-s-still-lags-in-fuel-economy/

  • Science for the WIN!

    You people are loons. If this garbage were true, electric cars wouldn’t be allowed here. The Nissan Leaf uses ZERO gasoline, and people are free to buy it. People have been making electric conversin cars for years, and there is of course Tesla.

    • Scott Baldwin

      you are a moron sir, and obviously don’t know a goddamn thing about the world’s power structure or political science

      • Science for the WIN!

        Quite the opposite. I’ve reported on corruption / money in politics, and am well aware how crappy things are in the halls of power and/or government. But what the author says here is classic evidence-free conspiracy nonsense. If it were true, there are several other vehicles that would be banner. This car wouldn’t be the most fuel efficient car on the market if it came here.

      • Robert Henry

        I would say that if there is a moron here, it would be the person who insults someone without taking two seconds to Google the veracity of the article. The author of this article makes a ton of leaps in logic based on wild assumptions and innacurate facts. Nobody would buy this slow, 150k two-seater go kart when they can get a fast electric luxury car like a Telsa for half the price.

      • Science for the WIN!

        I have a degree in political science, was a reporter for a bit, a freelance writer for longer and have been studying the subject for 15 or so years. You’re in la la land.

        • Ricardo Silva

          And I have a degree in Philosophy, Medicine, Quantum Physics, Mathematics, Cooking, Dancing, I have been a Ping-Ping World Champion before becoming a Scuba Diving Expert, I have won 3 Pulitzer Prizes and I lift 500 kgs with my left pinky while I give a bath to a wild Jaguar.

          • Science for the WIN!

            Difference being I’m actually what I said. I only listed some of my resume because the crank above said I “obviously don’t know a goddamn thing about the world’s power structure or political science”. I wouldn’t say such a thing about him, given that I don’t know his background, nor just because I happen to disagree with him about something. Your response is even dumber.

          • Ricardo Silva

            Dumb or not, my point was simply that anyone can easily claim to be whatever he feels like under the anonymity of the Internet, just like you did. No one will ever be able to confirm it so what’s the goal? Why even bother?

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  • tedstein

    This guy’s views are radical and you are all mindless robots for following him without question. Get some facts. This “freelance journalist’s” opinion is complete speculation in the form of encouraging internet slacktivism and the hatred of corporations. I guess if you believe that Amish people don’t get Autism because they don’t get vaccinated, then this is perfect for you. (This was a banner on Jim Stone’s website) So common all you keyboard warriors, make some social media posts, the change is one keystroke a way.

  • Matthew Rongstad

    My only question is this: What is their excuse for not allowing it in the U.S.? I would imagine it has to do with trumped up safety bs. Thoughts?

  • RealityColin

    Down the memory hole…

  • Thraceguy

    Jaguar has a diesel sedan that gets higher mileage than a Prius…you won’t be able to buy it here. We are being ripped off royally!!!

  • orangelion03

    Hello. I owned a 1975 Honda Civic CVCC, purchased new. 35mpg was the best it would get on a long, constant speed highway run. Average in town was about 25mpg. Gas may have been cheap, but I was a college student watching my pennies and I needed to make every gallon count (as well as making payments on the car). 50+? No.

    • orangelion03

      And the XL1 has been touring the US…or at least magazines have been testing it. Quoted pricing in Europe is closer to $130,000.

    • waltinseattle

      gas…diesel…
      hello

  • Boreal Lux

    This article is incorrect. The hybrid version is the only one which reaches near 300mpg (actually only about 260mpg using US gallons), and only when running off gas and electric with a recharge every 47 miles. Running off diesel fuel alone it has a max efficiency of 120mpg, which is certainly impressive. But why are you writing an article like this without even doing the basic research? It’s very misleading especially when directed with such a message (not that I disagree with the message, just the misrepresentation of data).

  • Oscar Estrada

    Murica at its finest! With a country that is bitching about gas prices going up every week and a lot of people this age buying more gas saving electric cars why would they not allow this car in the US? Because we need to keep our Prius’s and Tesla’s right?

  • Bob_Knows

    Why even have the expensive and toxic batteries if the thing gets 300 mpg on its gas engine?

    • Tezmond

      The article is completely misleading, its is a hybrid, to get that kind of mileage it is running in conjunction with its electric motors. And the car has toured to States and is still a concept. Just more typical conspiracy dribble taking people attention away from real issues all the while making them think they are “awake”

  • Matthew Daniel

    It is not only the oil companies that will suffer the losses. Let us really admit that it is the government that will suffer (the politicians). They will lose all the revenue from taxes on each gallon, the gas guzzler tax, and all that lobbying money, free trips, free gas, and free cars.

  • Michael Kaim

    It actually has nothing to do with it’s fuel efficiency. The US has laws that regulate how strong a car has to be. This vehicle is made of very lightweight materials and likely does not meet the standards the US has for their vehicles. There is no conspiracy. There are no lies. The vehicle doesn’t meet the strict design criteria the US has set. The laws are stupid, and that’s why our vehicles are not nearly as energy efficient as European cars. It is a safety regulation that is old and possibly outdated.

  • Skiptrace

    Holy cow… this is so stupid, it’s REDICULOUS!!! Can we please start a serious riot at every branch of the government to fix all this STUPIDITY in America!?!?!

  • Arthur Wayne Tinkle Jr.

    My Wife traded in her 2010 SS Camaro for a 2012 Volkswagen Jetta TDi. She bought the Camaro to piss off her Ex. She traded it in for the Jetta so we could go on vacations farther away with less expense (I have a Ram Hemi supercharged, not for for trips). The VW salesman explained to us that the window sticker said it got 42 mpg highway, but he said that was a lie. He explained that it actually got closer to 60 mpg but if they put that on the window sticker, the US would not let them sell it here because it would put the big three out of business in months. The TDI Jetta requires an oil change only every 10k miles. Free oil changes for the first 50k miles. Screw American regulations.

  • MSinMI

    Guess what. This car is ALREADY HERE. This story is just more right wing propaganda. http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/12/17/future-drive-volkswagen-xl1/

  • Eddie Verosky

    http://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-261-mpg-volkswagen-xl1-in-manhattan-becaus-1482688104

    Well…..about that, looks like its in the US after all.

  • Bruce McBurney

    Hey i researched about the mysterious vapor carburetors that were claimed to get 5 times the fuel mileage, my book explains it so complete, I sell it money back guarantee you will believe it is possible to do after reading my book. i have sold over 2500 only 2 refunds. I put 95 % free om website for free http://www.himacresearch.com check it out and share it out to help end suppression of technology

  • ProDigit

    Bs. You can ride anything in usa; anything!
    Even experimental cars.
    Maybe not in California, but you can in the rest of the states

  • SNS77

    So much bullshit. Let’s clear up some facts: Volkswagen is who decided to only make 250 of them. Volkswagen is who decided to only sell them in Europe. Crash tests here aren’t even in the discussion when a car lacks the basic required features of other cars, like side mirrors (especially since there’s no rear window), airbags, and head room for anyone 6′ or taller. The sticker is $150,000. If you’re the type who believes garbage like this at face value, you’re part of the problem in this country. 80% of what passes for “news” is biased and/or outright manipulated, especially on the web.

  • geostar1024

    Yes, this is an innovative car, but for $60,000, I’d rather have a Tesla Model S. Even assuming Volkswagon can cut the price in half in a year or two, they’ll still be competing against Tesla’s 3rd generation car which is supposed to be in that same range. If this had come out a decade ago, it would have much more of an impact.

  • Kyle

    So much BS! You don’t even need to fact check the long list of bare assertions if you’re mildly technical. I wonder if the author was deceived by others or made up the BS themselves. I lean toward the latter as the conspiracism drips from every paragraph.

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  • Robert

    From last December. Maybe some of you conspiracy theorists should google for a little more information before going off on your rants.

    http://ecomento.com/2013/12/12/plug-hybrid-volkswagen-xl1-reaches-new-york-city-looking-rather-superb/

  • Paul Hayward

    I personally knew an exemplary elderly man – who one day confided in me that he, too, had years ago been an inventor who came up with a 70+mpg carburetor – the result – his office was ransacked and his partner met with an untimely fatal accident. I had absolutely no doubt that this distinguished gentleman was telling the truth. Through eyes moistened by the memory he told me he would never attempt it again, no matter the money potential. Numerous historical accounts reveal greed in many forms – suppression of information is only one, there is also price fixing. bribery, payola, elimination of competition, monopolization, extortion and a host of others. The perpetrators of such deeds grow more clever, not less. With a half century of advancements in technology and science too numerous to mention, it is absurd to assume that DOT and EPA regulations are sufficient to prevent fuel technology from making great strides in over 50 years… or since we landed on the moon… There is indeed manipulation, if not outright conspiracy – just depends where you look. Nutty conspiracy theories have been put forward to create ridicule – and prevent good people from observing the truth where it DOES exist. All great scientific advancements are first ridiculed. Neither the Government OR Corporations have been forthcoming about their intentions, whether it be GM’s ignition switches or the NSA’s intrusion on personal privacy. If a student’s science project get’s a buyout with a gag order, and Stan Meyers has a General coming to view his water fuel cell – no doubt either is wasting their time and money. “If it walks like a duck” comes to mind… Be Alert, look and listen. There is no doubt you are being lied to… the only question is how much.

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  • Bob

    It is a real car, like people have already said it is being released in very limited quantities only 250. The price stated in the article is wrong car will cost over $120,000. Here is Car and Driver review on the car which i would trust a lot more then this article.

  • Christopher Denise

    Leaf anyone? We have electric cars that never use oil/gas, they’re not illegal, and they’re relatively cheap; this is a pointless and stupid article. If the vehicle is not being marketed in the US, it has nothing to do with big oil, don’t jump to conclusions because you want them to be true.

  • Lance Frizzell

    we were water injecting our cars back in the 70’s……add a little hydrogen peroxide and you increased your power output and got 20 to 30 percent better fuel economy. The technology is old hat really. The reason why you never seen this in mainstream is only because of money and profit. I wish I could live in the land of white picket fences and believing that oil companies and governments are there for the well being of all. But then the side effects of walking around with my head up my **** would seriously impede my ability to see the world for what it really is……….

  • http://www.newtonwaswrong.edu Jim Stone

    blah blah blah… blah blah blah… I invented this idea a while ago… blah blah blah blah blah blah gfy.

  • ShibumiMC

    “USA” is not “America.”

  • Chris

    1. First, the statement that the XL1 isn’t touring America because it’s too efficient is a little comical. I can’t say for sure but in my experience it
    comes down to cost vs. image. Flying it over, register it as a custom built vehicle (since it’s not production, no crash testing, etc.) would be an ordeal in itself. Then you have the risk of what if your flagship fuel savings car breaks, runs out of gas, or any other unforeseen disaster. It just wouldn’t be much in the way of added value when compared to the press it gets where it is now. The other part that I think that Jim overlooks is that VW is a German company. They mostly view the American market as just an additional but different market, not the leader of the world if that make sense. What advantage does bring the XL1 prototype for a grand tour of the States add to the company?

    2. I do agree with what I sense is his underlying statement with this article, though. That statement is that the industry won’t push the envelope as hard as it could. The OEMs have to meet an average fuel economy of 54.5mpg by 2025 for their fleets. If this regulation was not in place I don’t think there would be as much interest in the advanced technologies that we are looking into. Too much cost that cuts at profits and sales

    3. Mr. Stone’s idea of injecting water is interesting but I would really like to see some proof. Determining fuel economy of a theoretical engine is a very complicated ordeal. Also, I think he has ignored a very big obstacle with this concept. Cylinder liners for pretty much all engines are still made with cast iron sleeves. The engine blocks are mostly Aluminum but the sleeves actually see the detonation cycle and contact the piston. Water and cast iron makes for rust very quick and you would seize the motor in maybe a minute from startup.

    4. I don’t think he knows what carburetor is honestly. All new vehicles since the 90’s have been direct injection and a carburetor is a completely different system than the system he previously describes. In fact I’m not sure why he mentioned it unless he was trying to use jargon to talk over peoples head and sound like he understand what he is talking about

    5. Okay, 1700 pounds may sound like a lot but for motor vehicles that is insanely light. An F1 car, the most popular (globally) and probably most progressive motorsport, weighs 1415lbs. A pruis weighs in at 3000lbs. Also, weight isn’t the only issue with fuel economy, drag is a big factory to. XL1 has one of the smallest drag coefficients around and has the added advantage of being significantly thinner because they stacked the two occupants instead of seating them side by side. Less area for the wind to build up against.

    6. The top speed and 0-60 times he mentions go hand in hand with the above comments about weigh and drag on the vehicle. F=ma type boring arguments. I think the easiest way to look at it is motorcycle vs. car. A bike is more efficient, quicker and is only limited by the power of its engine for top
    speed.

    7. His argument about the 18 gallon tank is misinformed too. The reason it only has a 2.6 gallon tank is the additional weight of adding more fuel. You lose a lot energy having to overcome the additional load of all that fuel.

    8. To quote the article directly, “test drivers report economy above 300 mpg under the correct driving conditions, which would be close to sea level, a flat straight road with no stops, and reasonable speeds.” This is a very ideal scenario and is very hard to achieve in the real world. The original estimates of 200 mpg are there for a reason. The typical driver will never see those numbers in real life.

    9. The Jetta TDI blue motion wagon is “banned” from American roads because it is not in production yet. It’s coming to Europe and will most likely make it to US soil by 2017 (That’s a complete guess though). There is still a large stigma with diesel vehicles in America and manufacturers are hesitant to bring them here during the initial launches of their products. I wish this was not the case but that’s the way it will be for a while until the price of diesel equalizes with gas and Americans start buying the diesel versions of cars in mass.

    10. The “real truth” about the crash test rating is they are extensive and required by law. And that is not a bad thing, see Ford Pinto. To crash test the IIHS goes through dozens of vehicles, all which are typically produced by the manufacturer at prototype pricing before full production. The XL1
    is a one off at the moment and the Blue motion Jetta would still have to pass the same safety inspections as its gasoline burning cousin. It may only be a small difference in concept but the laws state it still requires the comprehensive testing to approve it for US roads.

    11. I agree that the vehicle manufacturers are resistant to change. But it’s not the profits from gas, they don’t see a dime of that. It’s the prohibitive cost of research and development of the new technology plus the additional large sums to implement them into their line-up. And the only way to recoup this cost is to charge the customers more, thus limiting your market even more by price.

    12. The inefficient parts, Mr. Stone speaks of is a bit of a mis-characterization. The large majority are to bring regular engines into emission standards. While the XL1 does this with other technologies, it would still theoretically require the old ones too. In my opinion it’s more a case of poor vision
    on a bureaucrat’s part as opposed to mischievous political donations. I could be wrong but that’s the way I see it.

    13. To comment on the no production line being set up, there is a long ways to go in the process before I see VW building a plant to make the XL1. There has to be proof of a market for a two seat vehicle with little storage space to speak of. The car has to go through the regulation jump ropes I spoke of above. And then at the end of the day, can they sell it to the public at a profit. For the small market of a two seat car it would have to be somewhere around $15k for customers to go for it and at that price I’m guessing they would need to beat every other car in the whole market
    in sales.

    14. The author again shows a lack of understanding that the relationship of weight has to a car’s efficiency. At the limit of efficiency it is exponential. For our cars, it makes a big impact to remove 100 pounds, say 1-2mpg. For the XL1, I would guess it saves 10-20mpg. That may not be worth it in the end but VW was shooting for the moon on this concept.

    15. I’m not sure where he gets this $60k price from without the materials but it seems about as reliable as my $15K price point comment above. At the end of the day we’re both just guessing and I think he under estimates the cost of prototype production parts.

    16. Again, the concept of 150 mpg Impala is nice but not in line with reality. The Impala is twice the weight, has a higher resistance to drag, and still has to pass all the regulations and safety inspections that the XL1 doesn’t. And 300mpg is an idealized mark as stated before.

    Okay, that is the end of my rant. In full disclosure, I do work as an engineer in the automotive industry so, feel free to take my comments with a grain of
    salt. I hope you read to here Mr. Stone, have a good day.

  • http://www.ipandora.net/ music2myear

    Sorry to burden y’all with pesky facts, but the author is a liar. This car DID come to the US to tour last year (http://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-261-mpg-volkswagen-xl1-in-manhattan-becaus-1482688104). It also doesn’t cost $60,000 like he claims, it costs $150,000, and VW is only making 250 of them because they are essentially technology demonstrations, not real, practical devices.

    Give it a few years folks.

    Yes, there are some who would prefer we keep driving gas guzzlers, and there will probably be various barriers raised to try to keep it’s various practical progeny out of the US, but let us limit ourselves to the truth when we work to get them allowed in as they ought to be.

  • techy

    I had a 97 dodge grand caravan, it got 31 real miles per gallon. the 2007 version only got 24 huh?

  • Derek

    This article is full of lies and mis-statements. Only a few hundred will be made, it is NOT 1700 LBS, but actually 639 LBS. The US didn’t outlaw them like the article implies, they’re a concept and not being sold here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hOnpQ59vbk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_1-litre_car

  • http://www.mattjminer.com SeattleMatt

    The future is for sale in America. I bought a Ford Fusion plug in hybrid. Over the last 16589 miles I’ve averaged 89.7MPG. By the end of summer the average will be around 100MPG (No heater and battery get’s better capacity in the summer. 0-60 in 8 seconds, top speed of 125MPH. You can do 85MPH in all electric mode.

  • Rob DeLeon

    I get approx 45mpg in my 1959 VW bug running a 1200 single port engine. It doesn’t have all the bells and whistles of a modern vehicle and 40 horses wont get you there fast but when the engine runs on gasoline soaked rag, you learn to get there when you get there.

  • Robert Henry

    The reason this car will never come out in the US has nothing to do with some crazy conspiracy theory. It’s a concept car, and car companies build them all the time to show off some interesting idea but they typically don’t go into mass production because they are horribly impractical in some way or another. What this article says about cost is complete horseshit. This vehicle was never to be sold for 60k, its limited production run model costs 110,000 Euros (closer to 145,000k in US dollars depending on the exact exchange rate), so it’s not exactly going to appeal to the penny pinching crowd looking to save a buck. Even if a 50k car were your next option (which is a bit on the high side for most people) and you spend $100 a week on gas now, you’d have to drive this car for 20 years before you start making your money back.

    This car is also pretty slow (98 MPH top speed and 0-60 in over 12 seconds, which makes it slower than a current model Prius). Why on earth would anyone spend 145k on this car when a fully loaded Tesla that runs on NO GAS AT ALL costs around 110k fully loaded and goes from 0-60 in 5.4 seconds. And for that, you get a fully loaded performance luxury car that’s actually one of the highest safety rated cars ever made (it literally got the highest safety rating the NHTSA has ever given a car, since the front and back are both full crumple zones because there’s no gasoline engine anywhere in the car). Hell, even if this car were 60k like the article says (which it’s not), you can get a base Tesla Model S for just under 70k.

    The reason this car will never be mass produced is because nobody in their right mind would buy it.

  • Kevin Kelly

    Not a single shred of proof is given anywhere in this article for any of the authors claims…

  • coyote6183@gmail.com

    I’d like to see a chart that compares all non residential equipments emissions to profit (like an average) to residential emissions to money saved. Not sure if I worded that right. In example a big oil companies pollution measurement devided by the profit, and residential vehicles pollution measurement with average 25mpg to money spent and then the 300mpg cars pollution with money spent devided, just so i know how much these trillion dollar companies are raping me through my own representatives. Anyone good with math?

  • Guest

    Isn’t this about the fuel tax?

  • Guest

    The price tag is $150,000. They’re only making a limited number. Volkswagen had to do several modifications just to meet the minimum safety standards in Germany. The car is on tour in the U.S., though. So much, for the conspiracy theories. Now, about those contrails up on the sky.

  • Craig

    Must take a lot to go 75MPH right? LOL
    EU Cars have catalytic convertors, regularly do 80-90MPH and still return 55-60MPH and have emissions of around 109 which is fantastic for a diesel

  • C W

    errrr, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. And the evidence this is being suppressed is…..????? Ah, “Big Oil” k, no memos, no smoking gun, just vitriol. That’s a good enough reason to believe it!

  • John

    The “FED” referenced in this article is usually taken to mean the Federal Reserve Bank of the United States. I doubt they’re involved in automobile regulation. I think instead you mean the EPA or the Federal Government.

  • Johnny Whiteeagle

    VW Rabbit in the 70s got 50+ MPG

    • Chris Kwist

      right . we had a 1980 rabbit . 52 mpg . got 180k out of the car before we had to rebuild the engine. was a diesel . the car weighed 1700 pds and had 70 hp . so with the small cars these days getting 100+ hp even with the extra weight should get better than that .

  • the7thson

    The Geo Metro, with the 3 cylinder engine got 54 mpg.

  • reedkal

    Not allowed because, as a PROTOTYPE CONCEPT CAR, it does not (yet) meet US requirements. (The Cooper Mini had to go through MANY changes before it got here.) Since this BS was written, the car HAS toured the US, starting in NYC. Problem is, this page BLAMES the (current) administration, who has nothing to do with it. Read the REAL story here: Full disclosure: Volkswagen is taking three XLs on tour around the U.S. at the moment, and while they’re extremely limited in where they can go on public roads for a variety of reasons, the your Jalopnik staff talked VW into letting us all take the briefest of spins around Manhattan. http://jalopnik.com/we-drove-the-261-mpg-volkswagen-xl1-in-manhattan-becaus-1482688104

  • Jesse Stocker

    If Tesla hadn’t been silenced, along with the many handfuls of brilliant minds that tried to continue his work, we would all be driving cars that wouldn’t require fuel, or batteries, or any sort of external power source whatsoever…..Just sayin…..

  • Justin

    The lowest price that I’ve seen on any other website was $130,000, not $60,000. The technology might be cool but unreachable for all but the most wealthy.

  • Gandolf1974

    Jim, this article is just a little biased and way exaggerated!

    First you stated that the car can get 300 mpg’s. That is false, it is between 180 and 210 mpg. Yes, you do state that it must be ideal conditions but ideal conditions are a fantasy, lets stay with the facts. Even the European estimate is not 300 MPH.
    Second, you seem pissed that the car will not be available in the US. Did you ever stop to find out why? It isn’t because of the oil companies. It is because the car costs too much to make and only 250 of them will be built. VW considers this to be a super car so expect a price tag of $100k or more. Can you afford that? I know I can’t. And I am not sure where you got the $60,000 price tag of the car since you do not site any of your sources in the article.

    There is no conspiracy from the oil company’s so please go hug your tree’s and sing kumbaya, it will make you feel better.

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  • republicrats_democrans

    Industry owns us, we have the freedoms they allow us to have because they legitimately bought our government.

  • Matt

    Vehicle is NOT Widely circulating for obvious reasons. The price tag is not known yet but will be easily over $120k reported. How is this even remotely viable for consumers?
    They are just hitting a niche high-end market. They are made with carbon fibre. They can’t make more if the market isn’t there for such expensive, low performance cars!
    Also many diesels don’t make the North American market due to carbon emissions on diesels, which are less lenient in Europe, especially with the high price of gas over there compared to the US.

  • Guest

    Great article, great car. Bring it on. “It’s” = It is. “It’s” = possessive. Please learn that f*cker and use it. It’s a credibility thing. It matters.

  • JamesD

    Great article, great car. Bring it on. “It’s” = It is. “Its” = possessive. Please learn that f*cker and use it. It’s a credibility thing. It matters.

  • Mark

    Oil dictates everything. They don’t want the American public to be energy independent. They want you to pay for every last drop of oil that comes out of the ground no matter how detrimental or expensive its going to be. I had a 2001 Chrysler Concorde with a 3.2L engine in it. I would get 33mpg highway and 25mpg around town plus with that engine and the car was 3900 lbs. SURPRISE… they canceled that engine and kept the crappy 2.7L that already had issues and the 3.5L which was a gas hog and no where near reliable.

    The govt should take back every resource in this country and keep it from the greedy corporations who have the ability to topple govts today. Energy should belong to the people and Chavez in Venezuela was correct in doing what he did. Personally we can boot most of the cars if we didn’t dismantle the trolley and train systems in this country. That was the dumbest thing we every did.

  • adrian

    the car is $146,000 so unless you can pay for it, it doesn’t matter if its banned or not

  • Bill Burns

    It is so much fun to watch the guillable get hoodwinked.

  • Robert

    Article is a lie, based on a lie, by a liar and supported by lairs who publish copies of it.. LOL @ the morons who fall for it as truth.. /sigh

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  • crazybaldhead

    So what’s the carbon footprint of manufacturing and recycling and lifetime fuel usage combined for a 70s civic vs a 2014 civic? Primary up side is that its safer, but gas mileage is only 30% to 40% of the picture

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  • Mike H.

    I would love to get my hands on one of these. I had a ’90 Lada with a 1.5L engine that got 45 mpg city and ~64 mpg highway…25 years later with a “western” car we should be able to do much better. Model line averages in the low 30 mpg range is pathetic in this day and age.

  • Archie Hall

    my 94 chevy 1500 ext cab long bed with a little 305 v8 now gets 40+ mpg on reg octaine fuel… was 12 mpg when I got the truck… yea they build program the cars and trucks to be gas guzzlers… a little money and work chevy small blocks can get a lot better mpg than stock… and far better if 69 – 73…

  • Meghan Pierce

    Guys, this is a hoax. http://www.snopes.com/politics/conspiracy/xl1.asp

    These cars are only available in Europe cause VW is testing them out. This car is a prototype pretty much.

  • Rodney Barnes

    I had an 80 VW Diesel Rabbit with an extra tank. I keep perfect records and over 130k miles I Averaged 50mpg. Driving into Juarez Mexico Ipaid $0.27 per gallon. I could dive from El Paso to San Antonio roundtrip for less than 5 bucks. My total fuel bill for 4 years was around $700 dollars. Poor grade deisel ruined the engine

  • Steven Resnick

    No it’s not allowed in the US because that thing is hideous

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